masturbators said:

there is certainly agreement to your comment "Isn’t it strange how chronic masturbators like us turn shame and humiliation of our behavior into a powerful erotic experience?"

the shame and humiliation may cause some to turn from their wicked ways and seek a more moral existence. for me (and probably for at least some of us) the deep humiliation is the narcotic to which seems to form what could be classified as an ‘addiction’.

the question becomes just what would it really take to ‘shame and humiliate’ us these days to the extent that we would change?

it seemed to me that when i became a ‘responsible male adult’ that there was a ‘form’ with a lot of items to accomplish to complete the list. now that i am old and have completed all that i can complete on the form, i am not sure that there is anything that would be considered a real limit.

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The origin of this shame/arousal nexus is mysterious to me, unless it is a
way to "re-process" a painful experience of shame and humiliation into a
positive pleasure. That might be the origin of most sub-male pleasures. But
it's got to be more complex than that.
Masturbation serves so well for a person who WANTS to be humiliated for
whatever reason. If you find humiliation to be arousing, and you masturbate
habitually, then the habit itself is humiliating and therefore all the more
arousing. And you become "addicted", another source of humiliation.
Especially since "chronic masturbators" are looked on (when I was growing
up) as a person with defective character and will power.
As far as what it takes to change (I prefer "break the habit") it would take
a real health-or-wealth threatening experience, or maybe the impending
breakup of my marriage. Nothing else could make me give up these guilty but
immeasurably enjoyable pleasures.